Mucked with attributions--Steve didn't make the "black necromancy" crack, I did. On Jun 5, Thomas Yan said: > On Jun 5, Rachael said: >> >At 10:05 PM 6/4/2002 -0700, Frank Mayhar wrote: >> > >> >>One word: Remaindering. A pernicious practice that is one of the things >> >>killing the paperback industry. >> > >> >Well, remaindering *is* pretty silly, but it's been going on for a lot >> >longer than the paperback crunch. >> >> It's still black necromancy. > >Was the description of remaindering correct? No, you're absolutely right. Sorry. I wasn't thinking, I was just agreeing with whatever anyone said.... >I thought remaindering was when the publisher decided to stop taking >returned books --and maybe gave some credit for unsold books-- and thus >booksellers just sold it at whatever price they could. In fact, >sometimes, for odd reasons some booksellers 'self-remainder': they just >try to dump their stock instead of returning the books. Plus, can't (at >least in theory) hardcover and trade paperback books be remaindered? Now that I think of it, yes. I get hardcover/trades remaindered fairly often, as it's the only way I'll pay for them. >(And when the publisher decides to remainder books, it seems like they >often give the author the opportunity to buy some or all of their unsold >stock.) It's a contract thing; usually they're supposed to. It doesn't always happen, which is why some HTF books are so HTF. >Whereas stripping was what was described: In the U.S., to make >'returning' unsold mass market paperbacks cheaper, the covers were >stripped and returned, and the contents (supposedly) destroyed. (Note >that hardcovers and trade paperbacks, when returned, are returned whole >-- not stripped. And I'm not sure if stripping is done anywhere else >but the U.S.) _That's_ what I meant by "black necromancy." I was going with the description. >-snip- >> >No, Rachel explained what has caused the real crunch. >> >> I wish my parents could spell. > >I just noticed (from watching "She's All That") that the actor Rachael >Leigh Cook spells it the same way. She's wrong, too. >Tangent: Another thing to get angry about is that (paraphrase from >memory) acid-free paper doesn't cost more than non-acid-free paper in >terms of cost per area. (For example, I believe if you look at 8.5"x11" >paper, you'll find similar or identical prices.) Letter and A4 sizes might not be the best places to look; I'd want to see an average over several trim sizes. But I see no reason to disbelieve this. >Naturally, this leads to the question: why aren't mmpbs printed on >acid-free paper? The answer is that acid-free paper is not produced in >that trim size, so you have a chicken and egg problem. Publisher's >don't have the option of using cheap acid-free paper because it isn't >made. It isn't made because there isn't enough demand to make it cost >effective to produce. Grr. Grrr, indeed. (There's still no excuse for Baen's ink, though.) >Corrections on the above again very welcome. Note that it is based on >my memory of posts made by Lis Carey on RASFW many years ago. Memory is the first to go. Next is Komarr.... Rachael -- Rachael From the Dilbert Newsletter: Lininger "You should talk to her. rachael@ She is a minefield of information." daedala.net