Scott Ingram writes: >I expect that if an 18th was created the universe would end or some such. Eh -- It's been made mostly clear that 17 isn't -the- number -- it's just the number Drageran society is formed around. "But 17 is the magic number," indeed. There are 17 Great Weapons because the Seroli created 17, one for each of the major gods. I'd -guess-, given her reaction, that Godslayer was created to kill Verra (which would make sense -- she is the most powerful of the gods, and it's the weapon that's designed to kill someone with unimaginable protections and magical attacks). >Hey, if there are 17 Great Weapons, does that mean there were 16 before >Godslayer was created? No, there were 17 -- Godslayer was one of them, but it wasn't finished. Note that Verra recognized her, even though she didn't name her, quite a bit before she was "done". -- Joshua Kronengold (mneme at io.com) "I've been teaching |\ _,,,--,,_ ,) --^--him...to live, to breathe, to walk, to sample the /,`.-'`' -, ;-;;' /\\joy on each road, and the sorrow at each turning. |,4- ) )-,_ ) /\ /-\\\I'm sorry if I kept him out too late"--Vlad Taltos '---''(_/--' (_/-'