"Gametech" <voltronalpha at hotmail.com> writes: > Jose Marquez wrote: > > Thomas Yan wrote: > > > >> When did you first become aware of the Overcast? > >> > >> I think I had already read a handful of books and still managed not > >> to notice it until it was forcibly brought to my attention on RASFW. > >> Of course, *afterwards*, I saw that it had been mentioned or alluded > >> to in many places. > > > > What exactly do you mean by "become aware"? Maybe I'm not aware... Someone mentioned "the Overcast" on RASFW, and I thought to myself, the *what*? Since you appear to understand what "the Overcast" refers to, you're already aware of it. I wasn't. Obviously, references to it in the book had gone in one ear and out the other. > I believe that he is referring to the color of the sky over Dragaera > (not all of Dragaera just the area that is part of the empire more > or less?) The sky is clear in Fenario. From my DbS notes: _Issola_, p119: -"[spoiler] sky like Fenarian sky: blue, with a sun/Furnace"-. _Taltos_ ch3, p36: [Vlad spent much time with Noish-pa] "tours of his memories of his homeland", "clear blue sky", "white puffy clouds", [bright] "sun" {typo? "Furnace"?}, "stars" {!}, _Brokedown Palace_ ch1, p8: "Overcast [in Vlad books]" = "The Hand of Faerie" {Overcast: related to mist = energy-conduit in _500 Years After_?}; p14: {Overcast = "Hand" again} ch9, p137: -"blue sky"- {no orange overcast!} I think it may also be clear over Elde Island (_Phoenix_). > This effect is created I believe from the greater sea of > [chaos]? I could be wrong about that. I don't think there's been anything explicit to confirm or deny that. > Everything I can recall suggests > that it is a reddish or orange hue. I'd liken it to a red-orange > sunset -- but all the time, well except for night time but it only > would make a little sense if it affected the night sky as well just > a little bit. That reminds me. In _The Phoenix Guards_, ch16, p159, Paarfi describes a character with -"brown hair, almost red beneath the natural orangish light of day"-. True, Paarfi is verbose, but -"natural orangish"- still strikes me as unusually redundant even for him. It also makes me wonder about their sources of light, some of which evidently are not "orangish". It's been a while -- what's candle light like? (I guess Earth's incandescent light bulbs are yellowish.) In another message, Joshua Kronengold <mneme at io.com> wrote: > Gametech writes: > > I believe that he is referring to the color of the sky over Dragaera (not > > all of Dragaera just the area that is part of the empire more or less?) > > Isn't "Dragaera" the empire, not the whole world? The whole planet is apparently also called "Dragaera". (I try not to use "world" because I find it ambiguous.) > Thus the citizens > of said empire being referred to as "Dragaerans"... No, I think "Dragaerans" there refers to the race; I don't think we've ever seen "Dragaeran" used to mean "subject of the Dragaeran empire". Thus, inhabitants of Elde Island are Dragaerans, and empire-Dragaeran subjects who are Serioli or Easterner are never called Dragaerans. - tky