Dragaera

OT: Subjectivity vs. Objectivity (was: bois...)

Chris Olson - SunPS Chrisf.Olson at Sun.COM
Thu Aug 15 13:50:03 PDT 2002

> Ummm...I hope you understand that, in Steve-world, to quote a Webster's 
> dictionary is functionally equivalent to leaving the word 
> undefined.  However, that isn't the point.  I've already conceded that this 
> is a lot battle.  The word has changed.  It now means what you quoted.  I 
> was using it as an example of a change that weakened the language, and I 
> have yet to see anything like a reasonable counter-argument.

Haven't yet found another online-dictionary (know of
another one I can use?  I actualy don't LIKE M-W...:)

However, I happen to agree with you in regards to "hopefully",
it does seem to have a weakened meaning, with no word to
make up for the lack...

> But it is still a *weakening* of the language.
> 
> Because something is inevitable does not make it good.

THAT, I agree with!!  I'll also state that, just because "everybody's
doing it", makes "it" neither right or good!

> Interestingly means, "this interests me and ought to interest you."  There 
> is no ambiguity.  Same with frankly, luckily, and clearly.  The problem 
> with hopefully is its ambiguity.

Again, I'm agreed.  I wasn't defending an argument, but
pointing out a source (that I still think is wrong, as
is also evidenced by my countless arguments with a friend
of mine, who INSISTS that the dictionary is right, no matter
what...:)

Chris
"Life is the nightmare that leaves its mark upon you
in order to prove that it is, in fact, real."
	-Thomas Ligotti- 'The Sect of the Idiot'