Dragaera

OT: bois (was: Sethra Lavode vs. Enchantress of Dzur Mountain)

Chris Olson - SunPS Chrisf.Olson at sun.com
Fri Aug 16 09:17:15 PDT 2002

> But these are adaptations of existing words to new meanings. I wasn't
> clear. "Cab" was not invented to refer to taxicabs; it was applied to
> cabriolets and other horse-drawn vehicles, and then to motor vehicles,
> and now only to motor vehicles for hire and usually equipped with a
> (ta-dahh!) taximeter to calculate the fare. (Oh, also to a part of a
> locomotive, etc.) "Carriage" meant an act of carrying or the manner of
> carrying for centuries before it was applied to a vehicle.

Between this list and the Cthulhu lists I'm on,
I'm gaining a multitude of new information... :)

> Language does much, much more than express truth-value meaning.
> It demonstrates group membership (I talk like one of OUR people; that
> person doesn't), attitude (I scorn the person I am talking about: "and
> then what do you think the b*****d did?"), and many other things. A
> language without slang is like a kitchen without pepper.

Heh.  I like...

And don't get me wrong.  I'm not saying slang is bad, or that
words should stay stagnant. Aside from the fact that it's
impossible, it would be boring.  However, I also feel that many
english speakers have become "lazy" over the years (I've been
training myself to not be as lazy in this regard...:)  This, in
some areas, is perfectly fine with me.  In other areas, I feel
it devalues the language.

> What remedy do you recommend?

I actualy don't.  I'm just being philosophical.
And, I tend to like arguments.  Good for the brain,
and I learn alot that way... :)

> Of course not. That's my point. What's yours? I mean that literally, not
> as challenge.

Now I'll have to go back and see if I can find an earlier
email... but it seemed (and I could be wrong, as I've been
responding to multiple people:) that someone mentioned that
it's people's usage of a word that defines it's meaning, as
in the sense of the word "hopefully."  People start using it,
and it generates a word.  Think of "higgley-piggley" as well.
Not a real "word" per se, but people started using it, and now
it's out there.  Perhaps I should have expanded the "dictionaries
getting together to change the word 'fig'" to "english-language
users get together to change..."

If you're saying people can't just get together and change a word
that's already been established, what happened to nauseous?
'Course, it's early now, and I'm probably confused on who's saying
what...:)

(as an aside, I'm enjoying the discussion.  If I get too annoying,
just let me know...:)

Chris