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OT: Subjectivity vs. Objectivity (was: bois...)

Lydia Nickerson Lydy at demesne.com
Fri Aug 16 22:03:15 PDT 2002

At 3:08 AM -0500 8/15/02, David Dyer-Bennet wrote:
>Frank Mayhar <frank at exit.com> writes:
>
>
>>  In the area of neuropsychology, by the way, there has been a lot of study
>>  of the processing of speech in the brain.  (I wanted to say "language," but
>>  it's a lot harder to demonstrate language in general than it is to 
>>demonstrate
>>  speech.)  It appears that our language ability is, indeed, hardwired, and I
>>  am convinced that further study will only confirm that understanding.
>
>There seems to be hardware support for it, is the way I'd put it.
>"Hardwired" suggests a rather stronger pre-determination of how it
>will come out than *I*, at least, think the evidence supports.

My understanding is that any human growing up in contact with at 
least one other human will develop language.  Bruce Schneier 
mentioned a case where a set of twins grew up together.  I believe 
they were institutionalized, although perhaps it was just that their 
family completely isolated them.  They were considered to be 
profoundly retarded, incapable of any learning.  However, researchers 
discovered that the two girls had developed a language between 
themselves.  It was a peculiar and limited language in which peanut 
butter was a vital element.

Consider, also, hearing children born to deaf parents.  Those babies 
will learn ASL, if that is what is spoken in the home.  Babies of 
deaf parents babble in ASL exactly the same way babies of parents who 
speak babble: ba ba ba da ba ba.  The child of deaf parents will make 
those signs with their hands.  Later, as they acquire vocabulary and 
grammar, they make exactly the same mistakes that their hearing 
compatriots make, including the pronoun confusion.  At a certain age, 
children tend to get confused by pronouns and say you instead of I. 
In ASL, those words are pointing at oneself, or the person one is 
talking to.  The fact that a child makes this mistake when speaking, 
even though they would not make it if you asked them to point to 
themselves, or their mother, is one of the key indications that ASL 
is a natural language, and not just a code.

Completely abandoned children, the ones that grow up in closets and 
are never spoken to, are the only people we know that don't acquire 
language.  After a certain age, they won't be able to, either. 
Learning language is part of the development of a child's brain, and 
there's a limited window in which this can happen.  Lack of language 
in turn limits other brain development.

I think that the evidence does support the claim of hardwired. 
Admittedly, we can't point to the exact pieces of the genetic makeup 
and the precise functions within the brain that cause the acquisition 
of language, but observation of language acquisition in many 
different cultures supports that claim.
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