Dragaera

Evolving language

Lydia Nickerson Lydy at demesne.com
Sat Aug 17 18:44:51 PDT 2002

At 2:11 AM -0700 8/17/02, Caliann the Elf wrote:
>I have to agree that the English Language is large, ponderous and unweildy.

I don't agree.  I think it is complex, elegant, and beautiful. 
However, I only speak English, so I'm biased.

>   It could stand to be whittled down into something more efficient.

In a practical sense, that has already happened.  Very few people use 
a large vocabulary on a regular basis.  The word most commonly in use 
are only a fraction of the total words available.  I don't see any 
reason to dispense with the ones that are used less frequently. 
They're terribly useful as reserve ammunition, in my opinion.  As a 
discussion becomes more technical, more precise, it starts using less 
commonly used but more precise terms.

>When was the last time anyone used the word "druthers" as a synonym 
>for "choice"? Actually, when was the last time anyone used the word 
>"druthers" when it was not precluded by the words "Give my..." or 
>"If I had my..."?

Sometime in the last week, I expect.  I happen to like the word 
druther, myself.  If I had my druthers, people wouldn't look at me 
like I'd just sprouted tentacles when I used it, but what can you do?


>
>Besides, I am rather fond of the word "squick".

Oh, me too. 

>There is a point to this, which is that I DO feel that English can 
>use a lot of help.  It could be streamlined into what is actually 
>USED.

Betcha it can't.  How on earth would you go about getting other 
people to accept some new standards of what words can and can't be 
used?  Language is not static, it's a process, and a process we don't 
even understand all that well.

>I'd like a dictionary that didn't have the name of a piece of 
>harness used for draft horses in the 1200's.  A "modern use in 
>vocabulary" dictionary.

There are lots of them.  How small does it need to be?  And why do 
you resent the extra words?  Seems to me that one of my collegiate 
dictionaries only claims 20,000 definitions, which is a pretty small 
percentage of the total words in the  English language.

>
>As for Shakespear, I adore Shakespear, but the language has changed 
>in many ways since then.  I am sure thee knowest of what I speak, 
>forsooth.

What amazes me about Shakespeare is how well I can understand 
language that is 600 years old.  I've been reading the Patrick 
O'Brian books, lately.  They're written using early 19th century 
English, and it, too, is very diffferent from the English spoken 
today.  I have a copy of the 11th Edition of the Enclyclopaedia 
Britannica, which is written in fine Victorian prose.  In structure 
and vocabulary, it is quite unlike modern English, but it is 
delightfully comprehensible and a joy to read.  The fact that I, who 
am but lightly educated, having only a high school diploma and a 
couple of college classes, can easily work my way through a Victorian 
sentence the length of an octavo page with only a moderate amount of 
effort, and that I can enjoy Shakespeare needing little more than 
footnotes and an occasional use of a good dictionary, proves to me 
that English is not inefficient and ponderous, but rather it is 
flexible and remarkably resilient, even when left in the untutored 
hands of someone like myself.

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