Penney, sean wrote: This is true in Canada, where....Should be good for a few flames. I have never seen anyone flamed on this list. Believe me- there are some knock down, drag outs, but no one gets derided or flamed. I don't think I've written more than two comments that have gotton a general agreement, but this list is fun and the discussions stimulating. Half the fun is the disagreement. Say what you want, we are listening, we may not agree, and reply in kind, but you won't ever be belittled. John Barbato