So forgive me if I'm being stupid, but I'm trying to remember and blanking; did they ever specify what line Kragar belonged to? Also, this brings up another question; how does a line get named? I mean, I know Dragon lines come from an ancestor (e'Kieron, e'Drien, e'Terics, e'Lanya, etc) but I recall reading of someone in TPG, not a main character, who used to be an e'Kieron and then somehow a new line started with them as the "ancestor". Possibly Lanya? ****** NyteMuse "Call her life unnatural, feel her undead breath. Color her black for sorcery, color her gray for death." AIM: NyteMuse139 / ICQ: #21966269 (NyteMuse) MSN: NyteMuse / Yahoo!ID: NyteMuse http://www.crowfire.com