A question for Steve B, or for those who know Hungarian, er, Fenarian better... Cawti has a patronymic name which we never learn. Vlad seems to think that all Fenarians (or maybe all easterners?) have patronymics. But Vlad himself is called Vlad Taltos. And his grandfather is called Taltos as well (by Kelly). So either Taltos is a family name, or both Vlads father and great-grandfather were named Taltos. Or maybe I just don't understand patronymics at all. So are there family names as well as patronymics? If so, what is Vlads patronymic? I don't recall his fathers name being mentioned. -- 'Never attribute to malice what can be adequately explained by stupidity.' -- credited to various people, I heard it from Robert A Heinlein.