Perhaps I said the wrong thing? Did I err? Anyway, while waiting for *someone* to say something, I thought I'd mention a couple of useful utilities I found for grabbing stuff from Yahoo's site. If you have a Yahoo e-mail account, you are probably aware that Yahoo no longer allows free POP3 access to said account. Well, guess what? You don't need to put up with Yahoo's nonsense; you can just download all of your web e-mail to an mbox-format file: http://web.mit.edu/ravir/fetchyahoo/ In addition, you might want to access Yahoo's groups. Some of the groups (like the stevenbrust group, to make this slightly on-topic) require yahoo membership to access the archives, while some are anonymous. Either way, if you want to pull down all of the group's messages to an mbox-format file, you can: http://parthe.lpthe.jussieu.fr/~zeitlin/yahoo2mbox.html If the stevenbrust list moderator is on this list as well, perhaps he or she could change the yahoo group so that the archives could be accessed anonymously? There were a few threads that were moderately amusing. Hmm. Perhaps a copy of the stevenbrust yahoo group archives (cleaned up a bit, since they are full of the SPAM that yahoo attaches to all outgoing messages) could be archived on dragaera.info as well? Just a thought...