Dragaera

Questions about genealogy & stuff

Mon Oct 14 21:57:35 PDT 2002

David Silberstein wrote, because he felt like it:

>On Mon, 14 Oct 2002, M J wrote:
>
>>>>Rollandar e'Drien was Morrolan's pop.  Mother's name was never
>>>>given, but she's the one who kicked Rollandar's ass at some 
>>>>battle.
>>>>Apparently their troops found great fun in musing upon their
>>>>leisure activities.  This may explain why Morrolan is the ...
>
>>>where was this ?  which book ?
>>
>>Ehrm.  It's never explicitly stated, but when Morrolan tells 
Aliera 
>>who he is in the Paths of the Dead (TAL, pg. something I forget), 
>>she said something along the lines of, "Yes, that's the right 
sort 
>>of name."  The only one we've seen whose name is close to 
>>"Morrolan" is "Rollandar," and there are lots of little clues, 
such 
>>as Castle Black having the wounded dragon painting that Kathana 
>>gave to Lord Rollandar.  I admit that's kind of specious -- 
>>Morrolan could've bought it from someone else -- but it gels for 
>>me.  
>
>Morrolan's dragon painting was by the Necromancer, wasn't it?

There's more than one.  There's one by the Necromancer, and there's 
at least one by "Katana e'Mar'Chala [sic]", so Mawdyearized by 
Vlad, because darn it if someone can mistake "Khaavren" for 
"Khaav'n", then Vlad can hear "Kathana e'Marish'Chala" and spell it 
"Katana e'Mar'Chala" -- 

Where was I?

Right.  Morrolan has a WHOLE SLEW of paintings about dragons, and 
the description of one of them makes me think that it's the 
painting about which the whole Kathana-foofooraw got started, and 
which she presented to Lord Rollondar.  (Note "o".  Yay.)

>I take your point about Morrolan's name & Rollondar, but I wanted
>Steve to confirm it (or provide a correction), and tell us what
>Adron's sister's name was.

Hmm.  We ought to devise a foolproof way to make Mister Brust 
respond to our guesses IMMEDIATELY.  Perhaps he can be trolled into 
it.  

=>  BRUSTBAIT:  "Roger Zelazny's ghost sez Aliera's brother's name 
is Molric."

Ha ha!  That'll get him.

>>Besides, it amuses me to think of Morrolan seething in jealousy 
>>that his brother Molric got to be Adron's CHAINMAN, and he never 
>>even got to MEET Adron.
>
>Is it stated that Molric is Rollondar's son?  I was looking for 
that,
>but again, grepping dead trees is difficult.

Ayup.  Rollondar sez at one point in FHYA that "[my] eldest son is 
the Heir's chainman".  ... Okay, fine, Adron could've had two 
chainmen, but when we only see one chainman and his name is Molric 
e'Drien, I think that's as good as ... well, it's as proofy as 
we're going to get bar an ex cathedra statement from Brust-sensei.

>(DDB?  Sorry to impose on you yet again, but.... )
>
>I did find the line that says that Molric "would never meet his
>brother", but it is not said that his brother was definitely 
Morrolan.

...  True.  I was about to say that "Well, gosh, Morrolan could've 
looked him up while they were in the Paths of the Dead," but then 
remembered that poor Molric has gone the way of the chaoticnessish.

>>>this is all in the brokedown palace, you meet both of his 
parents
>>
>>...  Really?  I'd thought we only saw Cawti's mother in BP...
>
>*And* her father.  

Yesh.  I missed it.  I am sorry and will write out a few lines on 
the list chalkboard.  *grin*

>Something else I've been wondering is whether Dragons name their 
kids
>according to the father's name or by the dominant lineage 
(although it
>may be that the father's lineage is always the dominant one, I 
dunno).

Doesn't square with Khaavren's assertion that daughters take after 
mothers and that sons take after their fathers, does it?  So, then, 
are sons named for their father's line, and then daughters are 
named for their mothe -- NO, BECAUSE OF ALIERA E'KIERON. 

Rats.

MJ,
not as clever as she'd thought.