BTW, re the web site. I asked around, and got the following info: Until recently, the web site was maintained by one person. Who has a -lot- of other duities, and has ended up having to update it only when he had time. In the near future, it will be run by a committe within Tor, which should make sure things are actually updated much more frequiently. This isn't a case of them not caring, or thinking it's old news; it's just a case of the infrastructure needing to be in place, and it was'nt. -- Joshua Kronengold (mneme at io.com) "I've been teaching |\ _,,,--,,_ ,) --^--him...to live, to breathe, to walk, to sample the /,`.-'`' -, ;-;;' /\\joy on each road, and the sorrow at each turning. |,4- ) )-,_ ) /\ /-\\\I'm sorry if I kept him out too late"--Vlad Taltos '---''(_/--' (_/-'