on 11/26/2002 Chris Olson wrote: You are saying that I have faith in not knowing what the truth is? Granted you could argue my nihilistic leanings are quasi-religeous, I suppose...:) Bingo. Religeon is a system of beliefs. In many instances culture and religeon are indistinguishable(ie:the jewish faith not eating pork. Religeous? Cultural? Both.). Keep in mind that philosophy and religeon are two sides of the same coin. Nihilism, belief, faith, philosophy-----religeon in a different form. I love it when you make my point for me. :) John D. Barbato,O.D. "I miss everything I'll never be.", Billy Corgin, smashing punkins