Lady birdsleeps wrote> I suppose my belief in doorknobs is also a religeon? It depends. Do you know there is a doorknob or just take it on faith? I can prove whether or not a door knob exists. This makes a great religeon, no arguments or doubts. Ladybirdsleeps wrote: There's an important difference between saying "I don't believe in God" and "I believe there is no God". I meant what I said. Atheists believe there is no god. Period. To say that you no longer, or do not beleive in god does not make you an atheist it makes you someone who has lost their faith. You still acknowledge Gods existance you just no longer have faith. I must apologize if I used the two interchangably, I am very busy today and have been answering these in between patients. Thankyou for pointing that out. Ladybirdsleeps also writes>I find it difficult to understand how someone holding a degree in philosophy could fail to see the difference. There are other websites where you can bait and insult people. Maybe you should find one. I hold a minor in philosophy from LeMoyne college in Syracuse, New York. As to the rest , sorry I'm going home. see you all next week. Happy Thanksgiving. John D. Barbato