Steven Brust writes: >It is certainly possible to define religion that way. It even makes a >certain amount of sense. But then we're left with needing a word that >means, belief in and reverence for a superhuman power. I think that's "'holy other'-style religon". There are lots of existing, self-proclaimed religons that don't have belief or reverence for a superhuman power -- Zen (the universal counterexample, and usually mixed up with a lot of superstitions that -do- have supernatural powers attached, but nevertheless); confucianism, and discordianism don't, certainly. (also, a lot of things are hard to seperate -- a lot of religons that feature belief in and/or reverance for superhuman powers also have other distinctive aspects; reverence for stories, traditions, or codes of behavior, which are part of religion and tend to get unfairly deemphasized if you overemphasize the "holy other" bit). -- Joshua Kronengold (mneme at io.com) "I've been teaching |\ _,,,--,,_ ,) --^--him...to live, to breathe, to walk, to sample the /,`.-'`' -, ;-;;' /\\joy on each road, and the sorrow at each turning. |,4- ) )-,_ ) /\ /-\\\I'm sorry if I kept him out too late"--Vlad Taltos '---''(_/--' (_/-'