On Tue, Nov 26, 2002 at 12:22:52PM -0600, David Dyer-Bennet wrote: > In fantasy, sure. Like Lois Bujold's _Curse of Chalion_. Religion > plays a large role in that book, and I like it very well. Whereas a lot of Bujold list members get very grumpy about the lack of organized religion in the Miles books, despite -- or maybe because of[1] -- the relatively high (for science fiction) level of spirituality of various characters, and sympathy for nebulous religious feeling. They're never happy about my bringing up the trend to religionlessness in those parts of the First World which aren't the United States either... [1] I suspect the spirituality of the books attracts more religious people to the list, increasing the sensitivity to organized religion in general. By contrast imagine an Iain Banks or Vernor Vinge list -- they don't attack religion the way Greg Egan, say, does, but I wouldn't expect a lot of religiosity[2] among their dedicated fans. [2] Except for socialism for the Banksies, and Singularitarianism for some Vingeans... -xx- Damien X-)