Scott Raun said: > On Wed, Nov 27, 2002 at 12:05:36PM -0500, Peter H. Granzeau wrote: >> I went hunting once for a word to describe lack of belief in any Deity >> (including active non-belief in a Deith) and failed miserably. I >> always wondered if "infidel" fit? It's got a lot of baggage, >> unfortunately. We need something that not only says "there is no >> God", but says, "and I don't care if there is one or not". > > How about agnostic? > > Trimming from the www.dictionary.com definition: > > : One who believes that it is impossible to know whether there is a : > God. > : > : One who is skeptical about the existence of God but does not profess : > true atheism. > > My favorite definition of agnostic is 'I don't know and I don't care'. These are two different meanings, and do not track. One is a merely logical statement: I do not and cannot with existing evidence know if there is a being matching current agreed-upon definitions of God. The other is making a value judgement: If there were a being matching God, I would not care about it. Not the same, and though the second may be an opinion of SOME agnostics, it is NOT part of the definition of agnostic. I am agnostic, but I'll tell you now that if the available evidence DID change, and it could be PROVEN that there is a being matching one of the many descriptions of God, I would be VERY interested to learn more about it, and ask a hell of a lot of questions. I might get squashed for my impudence, but I'd certainly TRY to get some answers to some interesting questions. :) I don't know many well-balanced atheists that wouldn't swallow their pride and assess new evidence, not to mention at least be curious about such a being... even if only to attempt to disprove it. To not care, in my opinion, is something I'd call childish, but that'd be incorrect. Even a child would be curious. -Rick