At 08:56 PM 11/27/2002 -0600, David Dyer-Bennet wrote: > >Maybe. I object strenuously to the whole concept of religion, >spirituality, etc. It's superstitious nonsense, and hurts people, and >destroys great civilizations. People don't kill people....*I* kill people. My poor, overactive imagination....gives me yet another visual. Spirituality destroys great civilizations? I see this army of yoga enthusiasts in front of a great castle...meditating the walls down while convoluting their bodies into unnatural shapes. My history may be somewhat off....but I have never heard of any great civilization destroyed by a nature worship based, non-patriarchial religion. War and aquisition is based on economics and greed. Religion has been known MANY times in the past to provide a handy excuse, (No honey, I'm not going off to Africa to gain gold and plunder...I am going to redeem our Holy City!) but religion is not the underlying cause of it. Religion doesn't harm people, nor does it cause great civilizations to fall. PEOPLE can do that without any help from a Diety. Peace, Caliann *Owned and Operated by the Great poohbah Cheese of the Universe* "Offense theives. -- they take it when it isn't offered." --Tom Digby --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now