Penney, Sean writes: I wonder - is it possible for a civilization to develop to a "high" state without religion? For the same reason that religion doesn't kill people, you can't ascribe the great accomplishments of civilizations to the religion. Religion can be the tool with which the hierarchy moved the people to great feats, but we do the same things nowadays for money, or science, or fame. rone -- New from the makers of Li'l Swimmers: Li'l Eaters. Edible underwear that looks just like Mommy's and Daddy's! - Kibo