David Rodemaker wrote:
>>> Are you responsible for the actions of your children once they
>>> reach adulthood and attain free will?
>>> This is a terrible assumption, in my opinion. Nobody attains free
>>> will ("free will" itself is a canard, painted as an opposite to
>>> "fate", when they're really the same damned thing); we're born with
>>> the ability to make decisions, and as our mind develops, we can make
>>> more complex decisions.
>>>
>>> "Adulthood" as it exists in most of Western civilization is pretty
>>> broken, too; upon puberty, we should be helping kids to start making
>>> 'adult' decisions, but instead we continue to treat them as
>>> children. Then 18 rolls along and we suddenly let go. "You're on
>>> your own!"
>>
>> I agree with you, but in the content of this discussion it's
>> irrelevant. Point is, at some point your children attain
>> independence of decision-making from you, and from that point on,
>> you are no longer responsible for their actions. Society marks
>> that as age 18, which is a really bad way to do it, but there
>> aren't any obvious better ways.
>
> I would like to point out that this whole line of discussion seems to
> be predicated on the fact that, Deity having created the universe and
> everything in it, he/she/it has a parental responsibility.
>
> What if the analogy is more along the lines of the individual who
> made a wildlife preserve?
>
Don't change the analogy (Please) a cosmic god creating us is plenty
different than us boxing in a few animals and having nothing to do with
their creation on a fundamental level.
> Creatures live, die, kill, love, etc all along perfectly natural
> lines.
>
right and starting a wildlife preserve would only be interfering with that
order, ususally to protect a weaker species from predators.
> Perhaps Deity doesn't love humans any more, or any less, than a deer.
> There are certain parts of humanity which seem prone to violence,
> perhaps there is a reason for this...
>
> Natural or Supernatural order y'know <g>
>
> David
Perhaps.