--- Frank Mayhar <frank at exit.com> wrote: I have plenty of sympathy for people with > disorders, but I will > emphatically not support their system of denial, no > matter how much "good" > it might appear to do in the short term. > Calling someone's beliefs a "system of denial" is pretty offensive in and of itself, imnsho. I would suggest you try to have less sympathy and more empathy. Perhaps you could think how you would react if someone reacted to your depression as denial of all the "good things" you have to be thankful for in your life. "Think positive", etc, etc. As a depressive myself, I would find that offensive at least.