Dragaera

The Great Debate....to DDB

David Rodemaker dar at horusinc.com
Sat Nov 30 07:32:42 PST 2002

> > > >Very mildly.  But they're still encouraging people to believe things
> > > >on faith rather than evidence, for example, and that's bad. People do
> > > >far to little thinking.
> > > >*****************************************************************
> > > >Clarify this for me please, are you saying that those that follow a
> > > >religion don't think?
> > >
> > > Let's not say everyone.  Let us speak of someone who says, "I believe.
I
> > > believe purely on faith."  Now, would you say that this person, on
this
> > > subject, is thinking?
> >
> > Any type of mathematics beyond the measurement of discrete objects that
can
> > be physically manipulated and observed at the time of 'belief'.
>
> I can't parse this sentence, sorry.

Bah. It was poorly written in the first place.

> But I'll point out that "measurement of discrete objects" isn't
> mathematics in the first place.

At it's most basic it certainly is. I measure this quantity (or count it if
you prefer): 1 rock + 1 rock = 2 rocks. My arguement is that when you take
mathematics beyond the concrete and discrete you are taking it's 'truths' as
a matter of faith. Not only that but we do it despite a whole series of
famous series of paradoxes and proofs that we then label as clearly
nonsensical and should be ignored when applying mathematics in 'the real
world'.

David