Steven Brust writes: Hmmm. Okay, Gedanken experiment: If there is an objectively existing god who cannot be perceived, and has no effect on the material world, how does this differ from there being no god? Why, because i said so. rone -- New from the makers of Li'l Swimmers: Li'l Eaters. Edible underwear that looks just like Mommy's and Daddy's! - Kibo