From: "David Dyer-Bennet" <dd-b at dd-b.net> > Steven Brust <skzb at dreamcafe.com> writes: > > > At 08:22 PM 11/29/2002 -0800, definitely what wrote: > > >Steven Brust writes: > > > Remember, I'm not denying the existence of god; I'm denying that > > > there is a god outside of the realm of ideas. > > > > > >I believe that if there does exist a god outside the realm of ideas, > > >he is beyond our ability to perceive him, and thus out of play. > > > > Hmmm. Okay, Gedanken experiment: If there is an objectively existing > > god who cannot be perceived, and has no effect on the material world, > > how does this differ from there being no god? > > It proves the existence of something other than the material world, > probably; and if so that's a major change, and very interesting. > -- Yet, not very useful. -Scott Ingram