Dragaera

Straw Poll about "Reply-to" (was: Damiano's Lute)

Joshua Kronengold mneme at io.com
Sat Nov 30 20:16:20 PST 2002

Tucker writes:
>>1. Have you accidentally sent a private reply instead of posting to
>>    the list?

Never.  Since I was raised in the era of the 'net when -most- lists
didn't set reply-tos, I learned early to use "r" for replies and "f"
for follow-ups.  

Mind, I've got some nifty custom e-lisp code that makes these "do the
right thing" even for known lists that use reply-tos (ie, r ignores
the reply-to header on such lists, while "f" obeys it, thus taking
advantage of this "feature").  And I do think that it would be a Good
Thing if there were a standard people could code email clients/lists
to that would allow for this behavior without munging standard
headers.

>>1'. Have you accidentally posted to the list instead of sending a
>>     private reply?
>The way this list is set up, that would take effort. (I consider this a 
>Good Thing, having accidentally posted to other lists.)

Agreed -- it's much worse to accidentally send a private message
instead of a public one than to accidentally send a public one instead
of a private one. 
But what are 'yall using the "reply" (rather than "reply to all")
thing on -any- list?  "reply to all" does the right thing on both this
kind of list and on "reply-to" lists.

>Nope. But then, I'm new, and staying out of the religion debate.

Hi, Tucker!

>>3. When you get a message that was sent to you instead of the list, do
>>    you feel obliged to query the sender to ask him or her if it was
>>    meant to private instead of to the list?
>No. I assume that other people are smarter than me, or at least have been 
>around longer than me and know how things work.

I do; sometimes replies -are- meant to go to individuals, not the
list; certainly, mine always are.

>>4. Has the Reply-To behavior of this list caused you confusion when
>>    posting to other mailing lists, perhaps even causing you to
>>    accidentally send a private e-mail instead of posting or vice
>>    versa?
>Nope.

Certainly not.  Instead, the bad behavior of other lists has caused me
to spend some time learning lisp code and having to code around them
to make them Do the Right Thing.

>>5. How do you feel about the Reply-To behavior of this list?
>>    Do you
>>   + like it
>I'm a fan, but Eudora allows me to "Reply to all" and delete the sender's 
>address so that it goes to the list. I've not seen a "Reply-to-list" list 
>where "Reply to all" will catch both the sender and the list
>>addresses.

I like it -- I don't really have a problem with having to clean up my
headers, even if I wish it were more possible to do so automatically
without breaking reply functionality on non-hacked email clinets.


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