Scott Ingram writes: > Hmm, i agree that religion shouldn't get a free ticket compared to the > others, but i don't agree that any other group, philosophy or > construct is held to be inherently free of blame for its actions. > Actions are committed by people, not ideologies. If it's not accountable for the misery commited in it's name, then it can't take credit for the good things commited in it's name. I wholly agree. Well, in that case I'm not certain of what use this thread is. Some of the Christians in this thread can't even decide if the first half of their bible should be considered in discussion, and although Islam isn't strongly represented in this thread, from posts I've read, apparently the Islamic mainstream both condemns and encourages terrorism committed in the name of Islam. That seems to jibe with my impressions as well. Except all this thinking has given me a headache. P.S. In my experience, lapsed Catholic girls *rock* in bed. It's hell talking them out of their virginity though. In my experience, the problem is that once you DO talk them out of it, you're in very big trouble. rone -- New from the makers of Li'l Swimmers: Li'l Eaters. Edible underwear that looks just like Mommy's and Daddy's! - Kibo