On Mon, 2002-12-02 at 21:01, David Dyer-Bennet wrote: > > Which brings me to a variant of that argument, called Sipfle's Wager > (after prof. David Sipfle of Carleton). It's the same basic argument, > applied to free will. > > Breaks down to three cases: ^^^^^ > > 1. Free will exists, and you choose to believe otherwise. > > 2. Free will does not exist, and you're predestined to believe in > free will. > > 3. Free will exists, and you choose to believe in free will. > > 4. Free will does not exist, and you predestined to not believe in > free will. Oh.. looky, we get a fourth case for free! :) I find these black and white arguments amusing, mainly because I don't live in a black and white world. I believe in both free will and predetermination.[1] [1] I believe that some key things are predetermined, but there are an incredibly large (possibly infinite) variety of ways for us to arrive at those key points. Jag