(Spoilers for _Paths of the Dead_.) 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 Peter H. Granzeau [I think] wrote: > The situation of the Phoenix puzzles me, and Chapter > Eighteen of _The Paths of the Dead_ don't help me a > single bit. Parthenogenesis? Is anyone up for a close reading of the passage on page 195 of _The Paths of the Dead_ where Verra and her two sisters discuss the problem? I'll reproduce it here for easy reference. ] "You explain it," said Verra to Kéurana. "The ] breeding of humans is your domain; I cannot explain ] why two that are hidden can produce one that is ] seen." ] "Let Moranthë explain, because she understands the ] phoenix and its significance, and how it lives when ] it dies, and creates when it destroys, and ] prophesies while making its prophecies come to ] pass." ] "No, let Verra explain," said Moranthë, "because ] she comprehends the Cycle better than I, and ] moreover knows how, to preserve itself, it can ] summon the phoenix, and even cause people to fall in ] love who otherwise might not have met." I suspect that this exchange will turn out to describe the solution, although we may not have enough information yet to figure out how, and it may also be, as others have commented, that SKZB never intends to nail all the details down. I will present a few wild speculations. 1. In the first passage, at first I thought the "two that are hidden" were the two living Phoenixes. On reflection, the theory that I like better is that Verra is referring to Mendelian genetics: crossing two carriers of a recessive gene ("two that are hidden") may result in an offspring that displays the recessive trait ("one that is seen"). This reading makes sense of the "breeding of humans" reference. That could mean either that a Phoenix can be produced through genetic engineering, which is plausible but not elegant, or that a Phoenix can be produced through sufficiently methodical breeding of Dragaerans of other Houses. 2. I can't get much out of the second passage regarding the problem of the Phoenix Heir. The reference to how the phoenix "prophesies while making its prophecies come to pass" does seem to foreshadow Ordwynac's challenge to Zerika in Chapter 34 that she "cannot both create the Empire, and use the Empire to defend it, all at the same time," and her answer that she will. (This is also a neat way to sum up a basic property of social behavior: institutions work because everyone thinks they work.) I suppose traveling to the Paths of the Dead could be seen as a way that Zerika "lives while she dies," too. 3. The third passage looks simple in light of the first, which probably means there are deeper layers of meaning that I haven't deciphered yet. The reference to the Cycle's ability to "summon the phoenix" might refer directly to the problem that a phoenix must pass overhead when a Phoenix is born, assuming Vlad has that correct. It also might mean more broadly that the Cycle shapes events so that the required Heir eventually comes into existence. That fits in with the ability to "cause people to fall in love who otherwise might not have met." 4. My proposed solution: The two living female Phoenixes -- Zerika and the other, who someone speculated might be Illista, which makes sense to me -- will both have children before they die. The children will necessarily be of mixed descent. At some point, some agency (maybe Verra, maybe Kéurana, maybe a Dragaeran or group of Dragaerans, maybe the Cycle itself) will begin carefully breeding the descendants of those two sources of Phoenix genes. Some might be Jhereg, some might be Teckla, some might be of no House. In the course of the thousands of years before the next Phoenix Reign, the result of the breeding project will be at least one genetically satisfactory Phoenix Heir. Or that's the plan, anyway. Comments, anyone? I'm particularly curious to see if anyone who likes this line of reasoning can fit the second passage more closely into it. I also wonder if there's any relevance of the identification (from _Issola_) of Verra and her sisters as (I think) Night, Pain, and Magic. -- Greg __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com