I received the following message 5 times from the list. Now, I know in the past there has been a question as to whether or not it was the mailing list or the sender's machine having a problem. It is my belief that it is a problem with the mailing list. Here is why: First, note the message ID's for all 5 messages are identical, which is something I would expect to change if the sender to the mailing list portion were hosed. Message-id: <Pine.SGI.4.40.0301151717170.105937345-100000 at shell01.TheWorld.com> Message-id: <Pine.SGI.4.40.0301151717170.105937345-100000 at shell01.TheWorld.com> Message-id: <Pine.SGI.4.40.0301151717170.105937345-100000 at shell01.TheWorld.com> Message-id: <Pine.SGI.4.40.0301151717170.105937345-100000 at shell01.TheWorld.com> Message-id: <Pine.SGI.4.40.0301151717170.105937345-100000 at shell01.TheWorld.com> Additionally, the message ID's that I get from the listserver are the same. Received: from DIRECTORY-DAEMON.chud.net by chud.net (PMDF V6.1 #30000) by chud.net (PMDF V6.1 #30000) with SMTP id <01KR9TH57FCW001ZDV at chud.net> for Received: from DIRECTORY-DAEMON.chud.net by chud.net (PMDF V6.1 #30000) by chud.net (PMDF V6.1 #30000) with SMTP id <01KR9THRQ7S6001ZDV at chud.net> for Received: from DIRECTORY-DAEMON.chud.net by chud.net (PMDF V6.1 #30000) by chud.net (PMDF V6.1 #30000) with SMTP id <01KR9TIDTVBG001ZDV at chud.net> for Received: from DIRECTORY-DAEMON.chud.net by chud.net (PMDF V6.1 #30000) by chud.net (PMDF V6.1 #30000) with SMTP id <01KR9TJDJQWI001ZDV at chud.net> for Received: from DIRECTORY-DAEMON.chud.net by chud.net (PMDF V6.1 #30000) by chud.net (PMDF V6.1 #30000) with SMTP id <01KR9TKC8L0O001ZDV at chud.net> for BUT, the delivery time is not the same. You'll notice that they were delivered to me (same message/message id/etc) over the course of about 3 minutes. If it were a problem on my end I would expect to either have the same times or see some other anomoly. (ORCPT books at bofh.com); Wed, 15 Jan 2003 17:42:50 -0700 (MST) books at bofh.com; Wed, 15 Jan 2003 17:42:50 -0700 (MST) (ORCPT books at bofh.com); Wed, 15 Jan 2003 17:43:20 -0700 (MST) books at bofh.com; Wed, 15 Jan 2003 17:43:20 -0700 (MST) (ORCPT books at bofh.com); Wed, 15 Jan 2003 17:43:50 -0700 (MST) books at bofh.com; Wed, 15 Jan 2003 17:43:50 -0700 (MST) (ORCPT books at bofh.com); Wed, 15 Jan 2003 17:44:38 -0700 (MST) books at bofh.com; Wed, 15 Jan 2003 17:44:38 -0700 (MST) (ORCPT books at bofh.com); Wed, 15 Jan 2003 17:45:25 -0700 (MST) books at bofh.com; Wed, 15 Jan 2003 17:45:24 -0700 (MST) Now, all this being said, I'm more than willing to believe I'm wrong, as I don't know how the mailing list is setup, but hopefully this helps. -Jot On Wed, Jan 15, 2003 at 05:18:57PM -0500, Mark A Mandel wrote: > "Cracks and Shards" now provides direct links to Amazon.com to purchase > any of the Dragaera books. This creates no additional cost for the > buyer. See > http://world.std.com/~mam/Cracks-and-Shards/books.html#buying > > -- Mark A. Mandel > http://world.std.com/~mam/Cracks-and-Shards/ > a Steven Brust Dragaera fan website -- Jot Powers <books at bofh.com> http://www.bofh.com/books/ "I'm upping my standards, so up yours!" -Pat Paulsen (1927-1997), Presidential Campaign Slogan