[snip stuff that I don't disagree with] >And if you want a great lie in science. . .how about the scientific method >as taught in grade school? I'm familiar with the example and I consider very tenditious. What is taught in grade school is a simplification. As an approximation of the methodology of science, I actually consider it a very good one. [1] The way that science is actually conducted in the lab and in the field is, of course, more complicated and subject to variation between disciplines (would we expect a theoretical physicist to use the same methodology as a field archaeologist?), but, on the whole, as a first approximation, it isn't that far from the way that science, in general, is practiced, with the only serious omission, IMO, being the importance of peer review. To call it a "lie" is, in my not at all humble opinion, dogmatic. -- [1] By "it" I mean: a) Gather Data b) Form a hypothesis c) Test the hypothesis via experiment d) Form a theory based on the results _________________________________________________________________ Help STOP SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail