> In a sense, war can't happen if there's no defence. If you surrender, > and just let the attacker have what he/she wants, there's no war. You > also loose what you have. > > Of course, if there's no attack, then there's no war either. Sethra is > just stating one side of the equation. Yes, but it's not a war until there is a defence. An attack with no defence isn't a war, so in that sense it's the act of defence that starts a war, as opposed to an Anschluss. -- Mike Scott mike at plokta.com