> -----Original Message----- > From: David Silberstein [mailto:davids at kithrup.com] > Sent: Monday, February 10, 2003 02:40 > To: Draegara List > Cc: H. T.; skzb at dreamcafe.com > Subject: Re: Grateful Dead in Fenario > > > On Sat, 8 Feb 2003, H. T. wrote: > > > > >>From: Steven Brust wrote: > > >>>Mord,fal:Grim,stuff/gobble/cushion/engorge (this I have absolutely no > >>>idea) > >> > >>Cumberland, if I recall correctly. A stretch, I know. > > > >No, not bad... Grim = blues; when one is stuffed or engorged one is > >cumbered.... > > Yet, examining the dictionary closer, I see that "fal" also means > "wall", and "Mord-fal" is indeed among the "Grim-wall" mountains, so I > don't think (although I am not sure) the "engorged" meaning was meant. > > I also note that there is a Grimtail Fissure, which is perhaps meant > to stand for the Cumberland Gap, and yet I still don't quite see the > connection between "Cumberland" and "Grim(tail/wall)" (although I note > that the Hungarian for "tail" is "far", one letter away from "fal", > and "r" is phonemically similar to "l") > > The county of Cumberland was named for the Duke of Cumberland, who > defeated the forces of the Scots Jacobite forces of Charles Stuart at > Culloden (16 April 1746). Digging deeper into "Cumberland" itself, it > would appear to derive from "[...] the land of the Cumber" in the > toungue of the English and described the lands inhabited by the > British. The British gave themselves the name Combrogi (cives in > Latin) which meant 'Fellow Countrymen'. More modern forms of the name > are Cymry in welsh or Cumber in english. [...] CumberLand was used to > describe the land of Northern Reghed from the sixth century to almost > the present day." [1] > > No links to "Grim(tail/wall)" there. > > Going back to the song, I note that "Cumberland Blues" is about > mining. [2] Could the "Grim Wall" be the face of the mine itself, > that the workers hewed and hacked at? > > I am baffled. Botheration. > > > [1] http://www.zensurweb.com/darkage/cumbria.htm > > [2] For some reason, I thought of Master Li, who in the carefree days > of his youth sold Emperor Wen some shares in a mustard mine. [3] > Which is neither here nor there, but I thought it was amusing. > > [3] "I was trying to win a bet concerning the intelligence of > emperors." > > Careful analysis by the Powers That Be, have also determined that "Puff The Magic Dragon" by Peter, Paul and Mary is a song about drugs. Retributive analysis by said group has determined that the Star Spangled Banner is also about drugs. A man can dig a post hole in 10 minutes. This means that 10 men can dig a post hole in 1 minute. Better yet! 600 men can dig a single post hole in on second! Adding more men will have it done before it is started! "Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar" ---Sigmund Freud Beware over analysis. W