On Mon, 10 Feb 2003, David Silberstein wrote: > And there's also direction of movement and such. Could Kragar scale a > wall at all? If he could, he probably would not be detected - but > Kiera has in fact done just that and not been detected. Kiera has been reported to have claimed to have done that. I never believed the report - thought it was self-aggrandizement. "Self", I should write. - Philip