Let's Get It On (Was: : Re: Dragaeran memory ) (Spoilers for Issola, whichI hope everyone has now read that it's in paperback)

Thu Feb 13 10:03:36 PST 2003

On Thu, Feb 13, 2003 at 11:50:56AM -0600, Joshua Kronengold <mneme at io.com> wrote:
> S Lumley / s piotto writes:
> >She never specified top or bottom dude. Look before you leap.
> Eh -- "bondage babe" pretty much tends to imply bottom.
> Textually...this would be because of the word choice -- "bondage babe"
> implies that the babe comes -with- bondage, while one would use a
> different term to imply that said babe likes to -apply- bondage.  
> It's so important to use language properly, after all.

Well, yes, of course the bondage babe comes with the wrapping and 
packaging.  It's resealable, too.

The cheaper models make you keep buying more, but at least it's 

> And to throw something on-topic into here: why isn't the Dragaeran
> empire more decadent?  Near as I can tell, they've got very few moral
> boundaries...but open sex seems to be largely the halmark of the
> Jhereg (and even that seems to be pretty tame), likewise for drugs.
> Is there are Tsyolanu-like class of decadent people (left over from
> the last Phoenix reign, maybe)?  Or is this just Not Done?

Remember, we have basically three classes in Dragaera:

1) Criminals (Jhereg)
2) Peasants (Teckla, Easterners)
3) Nobility

We've seen that the peasants are easy prey for the Jhereg, so 
those are two large classes of people with less-than-savory 
tastes at least some of the time.   

Historically, bondage and other sexual arts/perversions were 
mainly the province of the nobility, who had time and income to 
spend on such things.  And historically, they tended to keep 
it secret.  Plus, we see the nobility primarily through 
Vlad's eyes, and somehow I don't see Aliera confessing in a 
moment of passion that she whipped Mario last night and he liked 
it... or the other way around.  Vlad's never been running any of 
his brothel's directly either.

(Of course, Teldra might know, at least with respect to 
Morrolan.  Which could make for some interesting sideline 
comments to Vlad when she wakes up, except that it wouldn't be 

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