On Mon, 17 Feb 2003, Chris Turkel wrote: > >I tried reading several Discworld books but gave up. Its not they are >bad writing, they are very good, its just whimsical, light hearted >fantasies ain't my thing. > Hmm. I would distinguish between "having whimsy" and being "just whimiscal & light hearted". Starting around the fourth book - "Mort" - and with occasional relapses of being "just whimsical", I would admit - the Discworld books start to include greater amounts of darkness. "Guards! Guards!" has some very dark themes indeed. "I believe you find life such a problem because you think there are the good people and the bad people. You're wrong, of course. There are, always and only, the bad people, but *some of them are on opposite sides.*" [...] [He indicates the city below:] "A great rolling sea of evil. Shallower in some places, of course, but deeper, oh, so much *deeper* in others. But people like you put together little rafts of rules and vaguely good intentions and say, this is the opposite, this will triumph in the end. Amazing!" [...] "Down there are people who will follow any dragon, worship any god, ignore any iniquity. All out of a kind of humdrum, everyday badness. Not the really high, creative loathsomeness of the great sinners, but a sort of mass-produced darkness of the soul. Sin, you might say, without a trace of originality. They accept evil not because they say *yes*, but because they don't say *no*." -- Patrician Vetinari on humanity