Dragaera

Speaking of Vlad and Kiera

Thu Feb 20 09:17:45 PST 2003


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Steve Simmons [mailto:scs at lokkur.dexter.mi.us]
> Sent: Thursday, February 20, 2003 12:07
> To: Warlord
> Cc: dragaera at dragaera.info
> Subject: Re: Speaking of Vlad and Kiera
> 
> 
> On Thu, Feb 20, 2003 at 11:25:31AM -0500, Warlord wrote:
> 
> > KG writes:
> 
> > > The vial itself only appears in _Taltos_, but it's discussed
> > > in _Orca_, page 283:
> > > 
> > > "And what was that whole business with the blood of the
> > > goddess?  Not that I haven't figured out who the goddess is."
> > > 
> > > "I can't tell you that, Vlad.  She said it was important for
> > > you to have that vial, and that she, herself, didn't know 
> > > why."
> 
> > Now that I think back (rolls eyes for effect, see other thread),
> > "blood of a goddess" is all that I remember mentioned. Naturally,
> > the first assumtion is Verra, but do we have confirmation on 
> > that ?  If not, well, Sethra was offered god-hood. Could the
> > blood be hers ?
> 
> Since Sethra is not a god, I doubt her blood is that of a goddess.
> 
> My first rule in reading anything Sethra says is 'Sethra lies.'
> Not always, and sometimes by omission or just to simplify a very
> complex situtation -- but you pretty much need to take anything she
> says with a grain of salt.
> 
> Consider the quote above.  Vlad says 'not that I haven't figured
> out who the goddess is,'  He might be speaking ironicly, he might
> be literal.  Either way, Sethras response neither confirms nor
> denies Vlads suspicions.  But gives the *impression* that she is
> confirming them without actually doing so.
> 
> If one assume that Sethra is telling a minimal truth in her reply,
> all we've really found out is that whoever gave the vial to Sethra
> (as Sethra?  or as Kiera?) was female.  We don't even know if the
> giver of the vial was the donor of the blood.  Given who Aliera
> really is, it's quite possible that the blood is Alieras or Deveras.
> 
> There are other reasons to treat the exchange cautiously.  Vlad
> doesn't say who he thinks the goddess is.  The reader may leap to
> a given conclusion, but we've been fooled on that sort of thing
> before.  Vlad and Sethra/Kiera may have discussed it offstage, or
> some to-be-written book may give us more information.
> 
> Brust may not know himself, or might be taking advantage of natural
> dialog vs. expository text.  The dialog is pretty realistic in that
> most people use pronouns when they understand the subjects well.
> This very slightly modified exchange:
> 
>     "And what was that whole business with the blood of the
>     goddess?  Not that I haven't figured out who the goddess is."
>     
>     "I can't tell you that, Vlad.  Verra said it was important for
>     you to have that vial, and that she, herself, didn't know 
>     why."
> 
> doesn't read quite as smoothly, *still* doesn't say who's blood it
> is, and only ties the author down.  The original, with all its
> ambiguities, gives him wiggle room for other stories.  It may not
> be in his best interest to define it too well at this point, but if
> he decides to let the popular interpretation stand, there's no need
> to backfill this particular bit of dialog.
> 
> Mind you, I'm betting that Verra gave her the blood and that it's
> probably Verra's blood.  But I'm not betting the farm on it.
> 
> Steve "Who, me, paranoid?  What do you mean by that question?" Simmons
> 

I had not considered Aleira. Interesting thought; however, being the
offspring of a god(dess) does not necessarily make one a god.

Let's face it. We've gotten to the point where if the answer is 
straightforward, it is almost automatically discounted. I'm there.

W