Dragaera and Shakespeare [Spoiler for POTD]

Mon Feb 24 10:56:47 PST 2003

On Mon, 24 Feb 2003, John Klein wrote:

> On Thu, 20 Feb 2003, Philip Hart wrote:
> @> > Of course they're criticizable!  Criticism is part of the environment (or
> @> > interaction) which shapes their future behavior.  If they're dangerously
> @> > immune to criticism we call them mentally ill and lock them up.
> @>
> @> Ok, I was trying to preserve some sort of people/non-people language
> @> distinction - one doesn't criticize one's computer, one reboots it or
> @> downloads a new RPM or tells it to kill some annoying process.
> Really?
> Speaking as someone who's worked with computers for many years, I have to
> say that I spend quite a bit of time and energy criticizing them.
> (In fact, one of the primary characteristics of hacker jargon is the
> blurring of the distinction between person and non-person. It is
> frequently said that "OpenSSH doesn't want to talk to commercial SSH",
> when you would probably have it as "OpenSSH and commercial SSH frequently
> function in incompatible ways", since programs can't want.)

People talk to their cars like this, or their cats, or their cuticles.
In Hungarian my point would be clearer - can we switch or drop this?
You go first.