On Fri, 7 Mar 2003, David Silberstein wrote: > On Fri, 7 Mar 2003, Philip Hart wrote: > > >On Fri, 7 Mar 2003, David Silberstein wrote: > > > >> On Thu, 6 Mar 2003, James Griffin wrote: > >> > >> Sethra Lavode has been undead only for a few thousand years or so > > > >Carp: I don't believe this is anything like established by the canon - > >maybe Paarfi thinks this, but I maintain that the quality of evidence > >needed to reach such a conclusion is missing. > > I am curious why you think this. Why do you pretend that Paarfi's > research, spelled out in FHYA, is wrong? Up in the thread-snarl I made a few relevant posts on Sethran exceptionalism and Paarfian unreliability. Basically I asserted that we hardly know anything about her ability to defeat tests for aliveness ("It's difficult" "- but you're Sethra Lavode" in _Orca_) and we have less reason to take Paarfi's word as gospel. I'm not saying it's wrong, just that we don't have independent reason to consider it much more than gossip. > >Also I'm confused about something in _Dragon_ - doesn't Morrolan tell > >Vlad he expects the sword to be stolen by a Jhereg, although no > >self-respecting Dragonlord (except maybe M.) would hire one, > >especially so it seems to me for a matter involving House politics? > > > > The House that is really concerned with propriety is the Lyorn. > > Dragons seem to be have more variation, from really caring about it > to not caring about it at all -- as long as they don't get found out. > > Note that the Warlord Lytra e'Tenith, in _Phoenix Guards_, hires a > Jhereg to carry out some of the attacks on Khaavren & company -- > although she makes clear that she wants them disabled, not killed. > Although Paarfi may have been unreliable on that point, and it was > just Seodra who was "really" behind that. That last line stole my thunder. I would have added that K.&Co are non-Dragons, that Vlad says somewhere that Dragonlords don't steal, that association with Jhereg carries a stigma as seen in _Yendi_ (wonder if Morrolan and Aliera get to have duels based on their association with Vlad - maybe that is in fact a reason they flaunt the acquaintance), and that the aftermath of Baritt's offing would be an unlikely time for hiring a Jhereg to mess with M. - Philip