In any phonetic senxe, "guttural" means 'referring to the throat'. A gbguttural sound is one that's made in the throad. (I may have typos in this message; I'm getting lousy response time from this ISP.) Examples would be English /g, k, ng, h/, and, you might say even more so, Arabic or Georgian /q, q'/. None of the sounds people have been describing here as "guttural" are particularly so. I suspect you guys mean something like "inarticulate", hm? Ah ha. Merriam-Webster OnLine sez: > 1 : articulated in the throat <guttural sounds> > 2 : VELAR [that's like /g, k, ng/] > 3 : being or marked by utterance that is strange, unpleasant, or disagreeable Were you-all thinking of #3? -- Dr. Whom, Consulting Linguist, Grammarian, Orthoepist, and Philological Busybody a.k.a. Mark A. Mandel