Maybe I'm the only one to find the double standard in this group's willingness to bag the shit out of some-one's religious beliefs for days on end but as soon as a political message appears posts start flying around about how inappropriate that type of message is. I know people eventually got sick of the religion debate but it took a few weeks. Paul -- It's easier to ask forgiveness than to get permission. - W. Slovotsky http://members.optushome.com.au/velvetspyder Costumier & Reprobate