No Women, No Kids (mild Phoenix spoilers)

Fri Apr 25 14:31:43 PDT 2003

On Fri, 25 Apr 2003, Paul Hancock wrote:

> > And
> > doing so would provoke Vlad into unconsidered action against them, and
> > presumably Morrolan&Cie plus the heir apparent wouldn't be pleased.
> I never got the impression that the organization considered Vlad a
> threat.  They certainly didn't take into account the lengths Vlad was
> willing to go to free her.  In hindsight, they would have perhaps been
> better off killing her.  Regardless, I have trouble believing that
> Vlad's reaction to whatever they did would have entered into the
> equation.

They're not stupid - they know Vlad can throw chaos bolts; that he's
the fastest-rising Jhereg since council-member Mellar, who he personally
took out; that he's buddies with perhaps the three highest-profile
Dragaerans in the world aside from the Empress.  I think this is a
reasonable argument to frame not kill Cawti.

> > On the subject of the Cycle, everybody in the world except for Kelly
> knows
> > that there can not be a successful Teckla revolt in anyone's lifetime
> > (ok, excluding Sethra [if she has a lifetime] and the SiG).
> Verra seemed worried enough about it to involve Vlad in getting Kelly's
> group conscripted into the army.

She doesn't like the slaughter of Easterners, not something most
Dragaerans even notice.  And she probably had longer-term goals in
using Vlad.

>   It's a bit
> > puzzling to me that the Jhereg don't just wait a few years for Kelly's
> > group to die off (impressing future generations with the futility of
> > the struggle), perhaps helping them along in subtle ways that don't
> > announce Jheregs-were-here.
> They tried to "help" Kelly's group in a way that wasn't supposed to lead
> back to Jhereg.  Vlad tipped their hand.

Now that I think of it, the whole "frame the watch-station bombing on
Kelly" doesn't make much sense - the Empress just summons the group, says
"Fess up under the orb", then goes after the real perpetrators.