> Just to be clear, I wasn't disagreeing with the idea (which I argued > myself above), just insisting on the distinction between medium-rare and > well-charred pissing-off. Ah, that's fair. I like my pissed-off to have a nice, well-charred, lemond-and-pepper flavor, myself. Sharp, bitter, and burnt to all hell....<grin> Chris "So farewell hope, and with hope, farewell fear, Farewell remorse! All good to me is lost; Evil, be thou my Good" - John Milton - 'Paradise Lost'