At 06:12 10/18/2003, Casey Rousseau wrote: >Toubib wrote > > Never personally had a problem jhereg, but are you > > saying dzur is pronounced exactly like it's spelled? > >My understanding is that the initial consonant in dzur is comparable to the >initial consonant in the Russian title for emperor which comes from ceasar >and is usually transliterated either Czar or Tsar. Mark, or someone else >with direct experience with Hungarian care to confirm? An initial "dz" is not normal in English, but easy enough to pronounce, as we have plenty of examples of words with an initial "d", and as the sound is voiced, following it with a "z", also voiced, is easy enough. -- Regards, Pete pgranzeau at cox.net