Dragaera

Unrevivifyable "work" (was Sethra's House / Necromancer / Issola)

yaga at berkano.pair.com yaga at berkano.pair.com
Sat Nov 8 21:39:24 PST 2003

> >yaga at berkano.pair.com wrote:
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> >>I don't know if this has been mentioned, (I wouldn't be surprised if
> >>it had and I've merely forgotten...) but I'm wondering; if someone
> >>is unrevivifiable, they still get the Deathgate Special, descend to
> >>the Paths, and are eligible for re-incarnation, yes?
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> >>So...couldn't _any_ necromancer contact ye olde dead while still
> >>among the Paths and asked who killed them?
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> >*******  No.  Morganti weapons "eat" or "destroy" the soul.  The
> >essense of that being it then lost.  Now whether there is some way
> >to get them out of the weapon after that....
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> I believe you misunderstood the term "unrevivifiable", which, while it
> *can* mean "killed with a Morganti weapon", more typically means
> "killed in such a way that the brain is damaged or the spinal cord is
> severed" or, alternatively, "killed, and the corpse inflicted with a 
> sorcerous spell to prevent revivification".  Such persons are indeed
> permanently dead, but their souls presumably go to whereever it is the
> souls of dead people go.
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> That being said, I think it highly unlikely that said souls can be
> subpoened into murder investigations, since then assassins would
> *only* be able to either "work" once or only "work" Morganti.

*nod* I was speaking of the dagger-in-the-eye, hide-the-corpse flavors of making a person unrevivifiable.  And am I wrong in thinking that
souls going to the Paths aren't fully incomunicado?  And no, while you couldn't put a soul under the Star, wouldn't someone who'd *spoken*
to the soul be able to give witness under the Star to what they said about their deaths?

...I think I'm going to have to re-read the series to figure this out if anyone else doesn' have a handle on it already *cough* Steven?
*cough* 
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> I note that in LoCB, what the Necromancer does is to re-animate all of
> the enemy corpses on the battlefield, rather than re-insert their
> souls (which would be true revivification as we see in the Vlad
> novels).  I would guess that what she is doing is manipulating the
> life-states of the bodies, raising them to the level of brute animal
> life, and then directing their actions. 
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> But then, we may not have seen the limit of what the Necromancer can
> do.  Perhaps she, of all necromancers, *could* contact souls who have 
> Moved On.
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