In a message dated 11/10/2003 7:53:31 PM US Mountain Standard Time, scs at lokkur.dexter.mi.us writes: IMHO, when (if) we see what's really going on, Sethra Lavode will be revealed as the prime manipulator. Even the Gods aren't as clever as she is, and by the time Vlad is dead we will all know it. I wonder if the "Gods" (who seem surprisingly limited in many ways) are really a fancier or splinter version of the Jenoine? And if in a head-to-head confrontation, if any one if them is truly more powerful than Sethra Lavode? Plus the fact that she has such lovely silky creamy fur--oh, sorry! That's my KITTEN Sethra Lavode! (Aliera is the one that bites everyone and anything, but Sethra is a very old soul indeed.) talpianna