Sethra has turned down godhead; I suspect that nobility is not an issue that concerns her. It does, however, concern those around her. Either she holds a patent of nobility granted by Kieron himself, or, on the other hand, who exactly the hell would go up to her and ask, "undead sorceress, great weapon wielder, defender from the Jenoine for 200,000 years, holder of Dzur mountain, are you a noble or are you my inferior...?" On Nov 18, 2003, at 8:10 PM, Philip Hart wrote: > > > On Tue, 18 Nov 2003, David Silberstein wrote: > >> On Tue, 18 Nov 2003, Philip Hart wrote: >> >>> Ok, thanks. I'm going to suppose that Dimma needed something to call >>> her and just made that up - or rather that the title is just >>> conventional and used for this particular purpose only (Sethra can't >>> enter unless announced, no one without a title can be announced, >>> so...) >>> >> >> Err, why do have this wish for Sethra to be a commoner? Not that >> there's anything wrong with being a commoner, but Sethra is, after >> all, rather uncommon. > > Yeah, that's my point, she's sui generis, outside the system, ... > No noble title makes sense. Nobility derives from the emperor > (or the empire, I guess Aerich would say). What could the emperor > give Sethra? (Well, she has a link to the Orb and is hence a citizen > so maybe I'm just being ornery). > > >> I am not sure what the distinction might be between having a noble >> title, and being considered a noble, and actually being a noble. > > Yo, Aerich, field this one, would you? > > >> Besides, as mentioned, she is known to have served as Warlord. Do you >> really think that someone who was not a noble would be given this >> position of high responsibility, and *not* also be made (at least an >> honorary) noble? > > Sure, if someone's Sethra. > > Plus, that was when they thought she was alive, right? > > > I'm thinking Sethra doesn't consider herself as a noble (or maybe even > as > noble.) Maybe Paarfi thinks it's in his best interest to assign her a > title, but it doesn't fit my sense of reality. >