On Sun, 7 Dec 2003, Philip Hart wrote: #On Mon, 8 Dec 2003, Jon Carey wrote: [well, not exactly] # #> in Tai Chi we use the weight and force of the attacker's attack #> to throw him to the ground # #And here I thought Tai Chi was a form of meditation. Many use it so, including me. I learned the rounded "Yang style". But there are also straight-line lineages, which are used as fighting forms. -- Mark A. Mandel