Dragaera

Dzur and Sex

Kenneth Gorelick pulmon at comcast.net
Wed Jan 28 20:05:44 PST 2004

Doesn't this all get back to the English vs the African Swallow?
On Jan 28, 2004, at 6:41 PM, Jerry Friedman wrote:

>
> --- Philip Hart <philiph at SLAC.Stanford.EDU> wrote:
>>
>>
>> On Mon, 26 Jan 2004, Julie Alipaz wrote:
>>
>>> there are two schools of thought 1) females are the bigger because of
>>> reproductive issues.  They must feed a brood--take bigger prey, they
>>> must incubate the clutch--bigger = more body heat.  that said, they
>>> also believe 2) that it is a historical artifact of early avian
>>> divergence.  But the first theory gets more respect.
>
> Thanks!
>
>> I'm trying to understand why 1) wouldn't apply more generally in
>> predators.
>
> Me too.
>
>> Would this mean female raptors are scraping at the upper range of
>> useful size, and male raptors are less likely to starve or break
>> wings or graze trees by accident or something?  I guess birds have
>> a more difficult design job than say cats...
>
> I don't think so, because the smallest North American hawk, the
> sharp-shinned hawk (which a Dragaeran wouldn't even consider a hawk)
> has at least as much size dimorphism as the goshawk.
>
>> I think Loiosh says Rocza is a better flier since she's bigger...
>
> Funny, I've discussed this one on the Nabokov list too.  There's
> a very rough trend that bigger birds fly slightly faster, but the
> fastest birds are swifts, which are pretty small.  For stamina,
> there's really no correlation.  To a first approximation, size
> doesn't matter.  I doubt you heard it here first.
>
> Of course, we have no idea what sexual dimorphism is like in jhereg
> beyond the size difference.  I don't think we even know what color
> they are.
>
> Jerry Friedman
>
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