On Thu, 29 Jan 2004, Alexx Kay wrote: > > I had thought _influence_ went with the Cycle, and I can imagine status > > following influence to some extent - but I can't imagine any point in the > > Cycle where House Lyorn will be looked down on like House Jhereg is now. > > I can. I see lots of real-world examples of cultures which are (at least > briefly) obsessed with novelty, to the extent that people who are concerned > with things like honor, tradition, and intellectual thinking are seen as > pariahs. I think such meme-plexes are unstable and self-defeating, but > they definitely *do* occur periodically. Admittedly, it's rare for them to > heap as much scorn on intellectuals as is more generally heaped on Organized > Crime -- but I don't think it's unheard of. I don't think the Lyorn would accept such a situation. I _know_ the Dzur wouldn't. Marginalized, sure, but sneered at? But ok, I shouldn't argue from the limits of what I can imagine.